In this powerful and soul-stirring episode of the Disrupt Now Podcast, host Natalie Viglione sits down with retired licensed psychotherapist and author, Jerry Marzinsky, and Judy Gregerson, author and trauma survivor, to uncover the shocking and liberating truths behind trauma, and the vile parasitic entities that feed on human suffering. Jerry has done two other episodes with this podcast, but this third brings a new story through empowerment…

Jerry shares decades of clinical experience uncovering fixed behavioral patterns in the voices that the so-called “schizophrenic” patients hear—patterns that defy the randomness of hallucinations and point to a deeper, darker intelligence.

Judy courageously recounts her personal battle with such entities, tracing a path from childhood trauma and drug-induced gateways to a near-fatal descent into spiritual torment.

But this episode is not just about darkness but rather is a call to liberation.

Judy's healing journey, sparked by deep trauma work and ignited through bringing in more Divine Light, offers a roadmap for others that worked in her life. She describes how true healing began only when she learned to clear the heavy trauma from her childhood to let go of the suppressed pain, and spiritually assert her sovereignty through faith and acknowledging those voices were not her.

Natalie and her guests explore the ways that trauma, drugs, and broken spiritual boundaries create openings for these vile parasitic forces—and how reclaiming one’s power through clearing pain, stepping into the vibration of love, and having an expanded spiritual connection can shut the door to these destructive energies for good. This is a path of cleansing, strengthening and learning to adhere to daily practices.

This episode is a Divine Call to all who feel trapped, oppressed, or disconnected from their divine nature. You’ll learn:

• How parasitic entities hijack ancestral and looping trauma feeding off the emotional pain
• Why mainstream psychiatry refuses to acknowledge the true nature of "auditory hallucinations"
• The role of drug-induced gateways in spiritual vulnerability
• How reclaiming Higher Vibrations of Consciousness is a path to sovereignty and healing
• Practical tools for spiritual defense and trauma cleansing

This is not just a podcast—it's an invocation for freedom, awareness, and awakening. If you or someone you love has struggled with inner torment, depression, or voices that won’t allow them to remember how much they’re loved and are worthy of that love, this conversation may offer the missing key: the truth.

Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of suicide, drug use, spiritual warfare, and trauma but offer empowerment and solutions simultaneously. Please do listen with care.

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STRATEGIES FOR OVERCOMERS teaches six principles in random order:

• Learn to move mountains (big or small) with faith.
• Understand and recognize the enemy and how he works.
• Learn to hear God's voice in the many ways He speaks to you personally.
• Develop an identity based on who Christ says we are, not on the old man.
• Renew our minds and use that in our warfare.
• Understand our authority in Christ.

Psychiatry maintains the voices schizophrenics hear are meaningless auditory hallucinations caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. Clinical investigation into the matter reveals this to be a false claim. Dr. Wilson Van Dusen, a clinical psychologist and author of "The Presence of Spirits in Madness" began holding coherent conversations with the voices of his schizophrenic patients decades ago. He discovered they precisely matched what Christian Mystic Emanuel Swedenborg described as evil spirits. Following up with scores of investigative interviews with his schizophrenic patients, Jerry Marzinsky, a psychiatric evaluator, verified Van Dusen's astonishing conclusion: the voices are real. They are conscious, parasitic entities.

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Jerry Marzinsky BA M.Ed.— Jerry is a retired licensed psychotherapist with over 40 years of experience working with and studying the thought processes of psychotic and criminally insane patients in some of the most volatile psychiatric institutions in the nation. Jerry is a commercial pilot, certified SCUBA diver and long distance motorcyclist.

He has held the positions of 2nd Lt. in the Arizona Civil Air Patrol and Assistant Scout Master. He was awarded the state of Arizona’s meritorious service award and the Pima College Apple award of teaching Abnormal Psychology.

His formal academic training comprises a B.A. in Psychology from Temple University, a Master’s Degree in Counseling from the University of Georgia, and two years of study in a Ph.D. Psychology program. He is the co-author of An Amazing Journey Into The Psychotic Mind - Breaking The Spell Of the Ivory Tower and is currently is currently has a private practice in Arizona.

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In 1989, Judy Gregerson read To Russia with Love by Hans Christian and later Through the Fire Without Burning by Dimitriu Duduman. She was astounded by the faith and resilience of the underground church and the miracles they experienced despite great hardship. That sparked a lifelong journey of prayer and seeking, asking if she could experience that same kind of relationship with God—one grounded in trust, joy, and strength amid adversity.

Her books share what she’s learned through years of praying and growing. They’re about overcoming rather than coping, stepping into a victorious and rewarding life, and helping others rise above their afflictions.

Judy lives in the Pacific Northwest with her husband and two cats. She has published three books—one with a major publisher—and her fourth will be released in March 2025. When she’s not writing or talking to people about overcoming, she works in marketing.

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